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W0lfster

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Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« on: January 10, 2011, 04:43:06 PM »
After watching High Stakes Poker, can I please have a ruling on what happens when the deck runs out of cards when running the board multiple times. I have looked in RROP and found nothing on this rule. What also is the limit to the amount of times you can run it? Also is it true that the last card cannot be dealt anyway? If so whats the rule in this situation?

Also, once the river is dealt can you run it multiple times also? And are you raked for each time you run it multiple times, examples would be nice please.
It would be much appreciated.
Thank you  :)
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DCJ001

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 07:20:23 PM »
This message board is for issues concerning the Tournament Directors Association.

In my experience, "Running the board multiple times" occurs in cash games, not tournaments.

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 08:03:51 PM »
"Running in Twice" or more than one full or partial board is an abberation that is not a part of Tournament Poker.  I suggest you post your question on forums that deal with cash games such as 2+2.

Stuart Murray

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 08:37:27 AM »
wolfster, as per previous replies this thread is for tournament (TDA rule) questions and not Ring/Cash game poker.


TO answer some of your questions though generally speaking in order to run-it again it is from the point of the all-in, if the money goes in on the turn it is the river that is ran several times.

My experience is that you would not normally run it more than three times if it was the whole board, and upto 5 times if it was the turn, and 5 times if it was the river.

Generally there is no real point in running such hands any more times as the odds of winning don't change any, but by running it 3 times or five times that establishes a definitive winner of the hand as there is reduced probability that the pot will be chopped by each player winning the run or chopping the pot.

With regard to raking a multiple run you are raking the pot and not how many cards are used to establish that pot.

I have never dealt with nor considered running out of cards when running it again as running it for example 8 times is just stupid.

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W0lfster

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 10:24:13 AM »
Cheers Stuart, and I agree it is pretty stupid but still would be the ruling? Im intrigued

DCJ001

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 02:12:46 PM »
Cheers Stuart, and I agree it is pretty stupid but still would be the ruling? Im intrigued

Andy.

I realize that, at 19 years of age, you probably don't have much experience playing poker in a live setting in which the rules of poker are properly administered.

Cash game questions are appropriate for a forum such as http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com is also a forum in which you can easily learn about poker tournaments as well.

In a cash game, if players agree to run the board multiple times, they should understand how many cards are left in the deck, how many cards need to be dealt, and how many burn cards need to be accounted for. When attempting to reduce variance by running the remaining board cards multiple times, it's usually best to agree to run the remaining board cards two or three times. Looking to run the remaining board cards more than three times increases the chances that errors will occur and is usually a waste of the table's time.

Robert's Rules Of Poker are generally accepted as standardized rules to which most poker rooms look for guidance:

http://www.homepokertourney.com/roberts-rules-of-poker.htm

The Tournament Director's Association (TDA) rules are available here:

http://www.pokertdablog.com/PokerTDABlog/?page_id=107

W0lfster

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 02:16:52 PM »
DCJ,
I understand and I apologise for this but Im so intrigued I guess it doesnt help the fact i want to be a croupier and am obsessive about poker. I have tried looking on how to post threads on 2+2 but no luck. Any help? :S

DCJ001

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Re: Run it twice, 3 times, 4 times?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 04:55:36 PM »
DCJ,
I understand and I apologise for this but Im so intrigued I guess it doesnt help the fact i want to be a croupier and am obsessive about poker. I have tried looking on how to post threads on 2+2 but no luck. Any help? :S

Here are Two Plus Two's General Poker Discussions

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2/general-poker-discussion/

It's best to select the forum that corresponds to your question, skim through the existing threads to see what types of subjects are discussed, and, when you're ready to ask a question, you can start a new thread by clicking on the button shown below



at the top left of a category like:

Beginners Questions
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32/beginners-questions/

or

Televised Poker
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/37/televised-poker/

or

Brick and Mortar (Discussions of brick and mortar gambling venues)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27/brick-mortar/

Also, be prepared to be called names by some at Two Plus Two. It's basically a kid's club that sometimes like to bug new people. You can learn a lot from the experienced people there. But, every once in a while, it might seem like someone who thinks that they know everything might put you down for not knowing as much as they do.

I wasn't trying to push you away from TDA. But, in some ways, asking cash game questions or questions about hypotheticals that most would not have anything to ever do with is almost like asking questions here about making the best fudge brownies or how to rebuild a carburetor from a 1963 Jaguar XKE. There are better resources for questions like these.

I wish you well in your endeavors in poker.