Flop: Bet not opened vs Substantial Action/Angleshooting/accepted action/mistake

Started by Vincenzo Morabito, February 11, 2026, 02:47:58 AM

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Vincenzo Morabito

Hello everybody.
I'd like to have some point of view in this ruling.

MTT

Flop:
Player A bet 60.000
Player B raise all-in 73.000
Player C Call
Player D Call

Back to Player A push All-in 150.000 instead the raise it's not possible.

Player C Raises all in 400.000
Player D tanking and raises all-in for 550k
Everybody call and then player D says "there is a mistake in re-opening the bet" and he calls the floorman before the showdown.

Detail: Player C says "we had a lot af action, go to showdown" (revealing Angle-shooting intention, a strong hand and avoiding to speak up seeing mistake)

Dave Miller

Floor is called before the showdown? Or before the turn?

If before the showdown, that implies the incorrect action was accepted before the turn was shown. In that case, too late.

If before the turn, why did D act  rather than object when the incorrect action was back to him?

I think the players who acted accepted the incorrect action.

Therefore, in all cases, too late. Go to the showdown.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
But how much does it cost to knock on wood?

JasperToo

Interesting one, but id apply the principles i. Rule 52, and correct the bet. They aren't legal raises and no cards shown yet.

Dave Miller

I agree that rules were violated, but aren't rules and floor there to settle disputes?

I mean, it was player D who objected, but it was also player D who was the last and biggest rule breaker.

How do you object to your own misconduct?

Correct it not, action was made and accepted. Let's move on.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
But how much does it cost to knock on wood?

Max D

I agree with Dave, Rule 47 was violated, followed by substantial action (#36) where any action in turn wich at least one put chips in the pot (in this case 3) followed by 3 calls, meet the requirement twice, so time to move on and play some cards.
I would also be warry of player D who went all in and then complained, probably a player to keep an eye on.
Max D
Less talking, more dealing.