Under what circumstances can the other player ask to see the hand?
Under what circumstances can any other player ask to see the hand?
I think no other player should be allowed to request to see rolands hand if he wants to muck it. If somebody suspects something is not right, then they should call the TD an he will take a look. This only my opinion I am unsure what the rules say.
Georg
Georg,
In my understanding of the situation, technicaly, since all bets were called and action was done, the hand went to showdown. Again, technicaly, all hands would be shown to see who is the player with the best 5card combination. With that said, all hands *could* bee seen by all players at the table.
Now, it is a completelly different question whether or not it is good conduct, proper etiquette, etc.
I believe that players should be allowed to see hands that went to showdown, but I also like to discourage abuse of this privilege.
Poker has grown to an international level and all the proper player conduct at the tables has always come from the evolution of what gentlemen agreed to be ok to do at the tables, mainly in USA. But, it is no secret, that today most of people that come to meet poker for the first time will do it through online poker. And when playing online you can always see all mucked hands that went to showdown by clicking on the hand history.
When you play online the rules are fixed and clear. That's what new players expect to see live too, but in many cases different TDs will have different opinions regard the "right to muck".
I've got no problem with a player always being allowed to muck, as long as there's solid and well based arguments to support the decision, so it won't be left to how the particular TD feels about the issue.
Good weekend to all (mine started great with an AC/DC concert yesterday
)
D.C.
