Author Topic: 2015 Rules 1.0 - #17 Asking to See a Hand  (Read 3197 times)

BillM16

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2015 Rules 1.0 - #17 Asking to See a Hand
« on: August 28, 2015, 12:38:53 PM »
I'd like to see this rule altered to include a reciprocal obligation for the requesting player to show their hand.  This would apply to those requesting players that do not voluntarily table their own cards but who have retained them.  If the requesting player is granted the right to see another players hand then a reciprocal request must also be granted.

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Re: 2015 Rules 1.0 - #17 Asking to See a Hand
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 10:41:48 PM »
I'd like to see this rule altered to include a reciprocal obligation for the requesting player to show their hand.  This would apply to those requesting players that do not voluntarily table their own cards but who have retained them.  If the requesting player is granted the right to see another players hand then a reciprocal request must also be granted.

The idea that a requesting player must retain or have tabled his own hand is based in part on the idea of the possibility of reciprocity and also to encourage showing down to increase the chance that indeed the player with the best hand wins it.

Automatic reciprocity is another matter. For example, what if the request is based on a reasonable suspicion of fouled hand or collusion. Must the requesting hand automatically be tabled in that situation?

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Re: 2015 Rules 1.0 - #17 Asking to See a Hand
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 05:44:11 AM »

The idea that a requesting player must retain or have tabled his own hand is based in part on the idea of the possibility of reciprocity and also to encourage showing down to increase the chance that indeed the player with the best hand wins it.

Automatic reciprocity is another matter. For example, what if the request is based on a reasonable suspicion of fouled hand or collusion. Must the requesting hand automatically be tabled in that situation?

I agree that there should not be an automatic requirement that the requesting player's hand be tabled.  I was suggesting a rule change to say that the TD who approves the initial request should also approve a reciprocal request if one is made.