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2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« on: August 24, 2015, 09:07:00 PM »
The 2015 Rules will shortly be uploaded to the TDA website, in the meantime you may access them online using the following links. If using Android or iPhone the first screen that comes up asks to download the Dropbox app. You don't have to do that... simply click the blue box with the downward arrow at upper right > on the next screen select "direct download".

The following versions are in all-black type and do not highlight changes from the 2013 rules:


2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0, Longform Layout with Recommended Procedures and Illustration Addendum Word docx format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4iuow7dhbxv04ce/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20full%20longform%20docx%205.docx?dl=0

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0, Longform Layout with Recommended Procedures and Illustration Addendum PDF format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5at3650sslkpi68/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20full%20longform%20PDF%201.pdf?dl=0

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0, Handout Layout, Rules only, Word docx format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/139db4392bcqs36/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20handout%20size%20docx%207.docx?dl=0

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0, Handout Layout, Rules only, PDF format
https://www.dropbox.com/s/47902jfyk269hk4/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20handout%20size%20PDF%203.pdf?dl=0


The following versions all contain changes from 2013 in red italics:

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0 w/ redline changes from 2013, Longform Layout with Recommended Procedures and Illustration Addendum Word docx format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3bluovts0pbfhyx/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20full%20longform%20redlines%20docx%20A.docx?dl=0

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0 w/ redline changes from 2013, Longform Layout with Recommended Procedures and Illustration Addendum PDF format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wstpn79j1nadkpu/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20full%20longform%20redlines%20PDF%20A.pdf?dl=0

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0 w/ redline changes from 2013, Handout Layout, Rules only, Word docx format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uryxmkcandkvt30/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20handout%20size%20redlines%20docx.docx?dl=0

2015 TDA Rules Version 1.0 w/ redline changes from 2013, Handout Layout, Rules only, PDF format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zprn11f4563phro/Poker%20TDA%20Rules%202015%20Version%201.0%20handout%20size%20redlines%20PDF.pdf?dl=0

Please note, only the longform versions above include the Recommended Procedures and Illustration Addendum.

This thread is for links to the 2015 Rules only. To comment please use the TDA Rules discussion and suggestion threads.

« Last Edit: August 26, 2015, 01:40:51 PM by MikeB »

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2015, 01:19:23 PM »
This is like my Christmas. Thanks for all the hard work Mike!

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 06:30:29 AM »
TY so much for your great job Mike.

GG

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2015, 09:09:48 AM »
This looks great, is the test updated as well?
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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2015, 10:47:17 AM »
This looks great, is the test updated as well?

Underway. Will likely be ready by mid-Sept.

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 12:52:05 PM »
Great, thank you Mike.
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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2015, 10:49:33 AM »
Great work, Mike!  ;D
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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2015, 12:20:19 PM »
Hi guys,

I think it miss some rules or some details in the TDA.

Like the rule about " talking at the table " ??
What is allowed or not ? In multiways pot and HU ?

or

How proceeded for a player, out of the tournament area, all-in by/in blind and/or ante ?
Does his hand is alive or not, has the dealer got to open his cards for him to play the hand till the end and maybe double ...

or

Does the blinds were allowed to raise if a short stack shove less than a SB or BB ?

An maybe some more things and details ...

I think that a beginner TD and for players we don't make his job/ their understanding of rules and the game easy !

Personnnaly I know all of that but I ve got to ask to some TD friends like Nico Fraioli, Nick O Hara, Mickael Wesson Milliat ...

Maybe I'm wrong but I ve never find those points in the TDA or in the French Translation.

I apologize for my english my friends and I hope I was clear on those explanations.

Regards.

Terence Bertault
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 12:33:02 PM by Terence Bertault »

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2015, 06:11:19 PM »
I created some booklet pdf's of the 2015 TDA Rules.

The pdf's include a QR Code that can be scanned by a smart phone and point to the PokerTDA website.

2015 Poker TDA Rules with an index
2015 Poker TDA Recommended Procedures and Illustration Addendum

Print all the 'odd numbered' pages of the booklet on your computer printer and then feed those same pages back into your printer and print the 'even numbered' pages. Collate the pages, fold them in half, and staple them down the spine to form a booklet. This is what the booklet looks like (before it is folded in half) ...




Web Pages
An easy-to-read web page with the TDA Rules
A slimmed down version of the TDA Rules on my mobile site


Good luck, Barry
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« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 06:13:50 PM by nutN2Lewz »

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2015, 01:14:50 AM »
Barry: Many thanks for creating these booklets.

If you haven't checked out the mega-portal Home Poker Tourney, it is a treasure-trove of practical poker-related information:

http://www.HomePokerTourney.com

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2015, 06:48:32 AM »
Hi guys,

I think there s a little error in Illustration addendum. Rule 40-B, example 2.

There are four players left and not three ...

For the raises guys, I think you will have to talk about :
- European raises : everytime the double of the last largest bet
- US raises : raise with at minimum the difference between the two prior bets

I name it like that and in your example you are talking of US raise only ... A lot of house don't use it ... In France for example, it's in the law that a raise has to be always the double ...

Edit : guys, I don t want to be disrespectful but a lot of example in Illustrations Addendum are so bad ... some are too basics and scholastics that there are funny ... and some don't prove that a TD can use his discretion like the Rule 52 Example B ... We can do much better I think ...

Friendly regards.

Terence
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 12:22:40 PM by Terence Bertault »

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2015, 08:46:13 AM »

For the raises guys, I think you will have to talk about :
- European raises : everytime the double of the last largest bet
- US raises : raise with at minimum the difference between the two prior bets

I name it like that and in your example you are talking of US raise only ... A lot of house don't use it ... In France for example, it's in the law that a raise has to be always the double ...

Terence

Hi Terence,

The double raise is only in France. In the rest of Europe raises are properly made.

Juan.

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2015, 10:45:33 AM »
Hi Mike:

There are some small mistakes in the Illustration Addendum:

Rule 19: Both examples are the same, only changes the name of the game.
Rule 40-B Example 2 is completely messed up.

regards,

Juan.

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2015, 11:21:48 AM »

Hi Terence,

The double raise is only in France. In the rest of Europe raises are properly made.

Juan.

Hi Juan,

Double raise is used in others countries my friend like all the countries and Islands in Indian Ocean ...

But you re right for Europe I think, I ve never played in Germany, Holland, Portugal ...
We name it like that here and French named it sometimes like that !

Maybe we call it like to mark the contradiction too ! US / EUROPE ... But now for you and on this forum I will talk about "Double Raise Rule" !   ;)

Friendly regards.

Terence
« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 01:53:01 PM by Terence Bertault »

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Re: 2015 Poker TDA Rules Version 1.0
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2015, 08:05:43 AM »
Terrance,

 If I'm understanding you correctly, it sounds like you are saying the raise rule in France does not allow a true minimum raise. Limit poker is easy to figure and I'm sure you're referring to no limit.
 If a player wagers 100 and the next player raises to 200 (double or 100 more), this is the minimum allowable raise, of course. ;)
 The next player is facing a 200 wager...his options are: fold, call 200, or raise. The question is: how much can he raise? In no limit we know he can put in all of his chips by going all-in. What is the minimum raise he can make? The only answer is 100 more, which would make his bet 300 (100+100+100). I'm afraid that you are saying in France, the min raise must double the 200 bet he is facing. If I'm correct, there is a serious problem in all of France when it comes to no limit poker!

 Before I continue, I'd like some clarification on this. I'd also like to move this topic to it's proper location.

« Last Edit: October 10, 2015, 02:41:58 PM by Nick C »