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The Hitman

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one ante missing
« on: March 03, 2010, 03:16:05 AM »
Hello,

The dealer makes his shuffle then collects the antes (blinds 150/300, ante 25).
After dealing he notices than there is only 225 in the pot (instead of 250), he is unable to identify who didn't give his ante and all the players are sure they gave it.

The floor manager decide to take one 25 chip in the casino cashier to mend the mistake.

Does it seem correct to you? Is there a specific rule for that kind of case?

Thank you!

Stuart Murray

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Re: one ante missing
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 04:39:52 AM »
dogzy,

There are no rules regarding handling a missing ante at the table.  The way I have ruled in the past is allow the hand to continue with the ante missing from the pot, but usually someone pipes in and puts the ante in (usually a chip leader at the table) to correct the situation before I have to rule.

One way I thought about there was to force an ante on someone with a low card draw, this would rattle the players enough for them to make sure no-one was missing posting in future.

I can't say I am particularly 'fond' of your floors decision as it has changed the chip count of the tournament, and is he going to keep putting these chips in whenever one is missing from the pot?

When the ante's kick in I do tell players that it is now in force and to collect clockwise to make sure everyone has posted but it does happen especially in self deals.  It is simple enough when you have a dealer - just instruct them to start in the #1 seat and work there way round.  I doubt they will miss it again.

Regards
Stuart

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Re: one ante missing
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 03:30:26 AM »
 I believe that the hand would have to be played short one ante. I'm not in favor of the house making up the shortage. It could be considered a nice gesture by some but, once you start doing that, when do you stop. This is clearly the responsibility of the dealer. While the dealer is shuffling the cards , they should be calling for "antes please." Any dealer should be aware of the number of players at the table. By the time the shuffle is completed and the dealer has made a half cut onto the cut card, the correct number of antes should be gathered together by the dealer (using two hands). The cut should not be completed until all players have anted.
 Once that happens at a table, everyone will be watching.
Nick C