Under bet

[Guillaume Gleize]

Hello
A question about insufficient bet with no verbal announcement

Texas Holdem - 4 players – post flop – Blinds are 5000 10000
Player A (stack 200000) goes all in for his 200000
Player B (satck 100000) silently push only 20000

They call for the floor.
1)   Player B must go all-in too with its 100000?
2)   Player B can choose to fold and forfeit the 20000?

I know player B is facing an open bet so is supposed to call but can't the TD use the "gross misunderstanding" here (if he thinks player B is acting in good faith)?

[Dave Miller]

The decision may be based on whether the 200,000 bet was properly counted or announced.

Then again, this might be a Rule One situation.

[Guillaume Gleize]

Hello Dave,
First TY for the answer.

Yes, the player A did bet correctly but in silence: he pushed everything in the middle.
Some floors around me keep on saying it must be an automatic call because facing an open bet.
But here I used the #1 rule as a gross misunderstanding because of:
a) The huge difference between the amounts!
b) It involved all the chips of B (if B had 400000 or more > I would not have used the #1 rule and would have stay with the call)!

[Dave Miller]

Stick with your option A. It's a gross misunderstanding. Rule one probably applies.

Your option B requires the TD to get into player B's head, to try and figure out (or assume) what he was thinking. That's not the TD's job.

The ratio of the stack size to the bet is irrelevant.