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Forward motion, spilling out chips and straddle

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W0lfster:
Thanks for your replies Dave and Nick,

Dave, I am with you on everything except the minimum raise requirement after the last straddle. The way you have worded it sounds as if the straddle is more a blind raise rather than an additional blind. I would have thought it would be doubled such as: straddle 8 and min raise would be 16 since we are treating the straddle as like another Big Blind. I funnily enough looked at this in another forum and the people say different things and cannot seem to agree completely on this. Maybe it differs cardroom to cardroom?!

Nick yes exactly they do double and in terms of raises, that is what I’m puzzled over.

Dave Miller:
Maybe I worded it badly.

Except for the rare ‘rounded’ straddle like my 1/2 to 5 example, straddles are always double.
Re-straddle? Double again.
Re-straddle again? Double again, AGAIN.
Etc.

That’s how that 5/10 game got to 320. 10, 20, 40, 80, 160, 320!

Whatever the last straddle is, a minimum raise is another double. A min re-raise is the amount of the call plus the amount of the raise - like normal. It just so happens that if it’s a min raise followed by a min re-raise, it’s triple the last straddle. But that rarely happens.

W0lfster:
Hi Dave,

Thanks for your reply,

I get the restraddle is always double I’m just at a loss as to why the minimum raise after the last straddle is always double the penultimate straddle rather than the previous straddle. For example, if the straddle is 10 and the next person restraddles for 20 and the next person then restraddles for 40 and no more straddles happen, where I come from is the minimum raise would be double the 40 which would be 80 no? I don’t understand why it would be 20 more for 60 if we are treating the straddles as live and essentially just another big blind rather than a blind raise where the 60 would make sense.

I hope that makes sense?!

Dave Miller:
I think you’re confusing the last straddle with the first min raise.

You’re right. Once it gets straddled up to 40, a min raise is to 80. Mind you that’s also the amount of the next straddle, if there were one. But there wasn’t. It’s a raise of 40 so a min reraise is another 40, for a total of 120.

Hope that clears it up.

W0lfster:
Hi Dave,

That makes sense, thank you 😊

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