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Controversial ruling in 2-7 NL Single Draw

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Nick C:
K-Lo,

 I said I never played the game (and probably never will), so if what you say is true, (and I'm sure it is) then of course the two 500 chips would constitute a 1000 bet. Therefore, I think the majority would be in favor of encouraging player's to make their intentions clear, or suffer the consequences. Let house rules apply for the minority that play those specialty games.

 We can always amend the existing rules with a simple notation for the house specialty games. For example: PLEASE NOTE: Some specialty games may be exclusively featured
in our cardroom, be sure to read and understand our house rules before participating.

chet:
It seems to me to be just common sense to find out what the house rules are for ANY game you want to play in a room that you have not played in before or as I learned last week a room in which you may not have played for several weeks. 

For example, I know that a number of rooms have betting lines on their tables.  However, that does not mean those lines are in play.  At a local Native American casino, the lines were never used for cash games ONLY for tournaments.  Last week I found out that they no longer use the lines for tournaments either, but they are still there. 

We also need to remember that TDA Rules are only intended to apply to tournaments, not to cash games.  The TDA rules already state in the opening paragraph that those rule are intended to supplement the standard or "House Rules". 

Chet

Nick C:
Chet,

 It's not common sense. I get the feeling that you think I am attacking every TDA rule that exists. I'm not, but I do think there's plenty of room for improvement. We're discussing one incident from the original post, and we've referred to about five different TDA rules that could apply. I guess you can throw in common sense, too.

MikeB:
BTW, this is an excellent example of a topic which may have exposed a gap or "blind spot" in tournament rules. Many thanks to K-Lo for raising the issue. I have set up a "suggestions for changes" thread at:
http://www.pokertda.com/forum/index.php?topic=705.0

If over the coming year you find a topic or topics that appears to be unaddressed by current rules, by all means please start a thread in the new suggestions category and link to any relevant discussions elsewhere on the board.

chet:
Nick:  When I wrote about common sense, it was intended to mean that any player in any room in any location should know what the House Rules are before they begin playing.  The only thing I am not in agreement with is that we need a new or amended rule for each and every possible situation that arises.  That, in my opinion, is just not practical.  My main point is that it is the players responsibility to know the rules for the game and the location. 

If we were playing in Utopia, we might be able to come up with a universal set of rules that covered each and every game.  However, we are not in that location and I don't think we will ever be.  I know for a fact that TDA Rules do not have 100% implementation even in rooms that claim to follow those rules. 

So once again, I believe the responsibility for having a set of rules rests on the House, at the same time, the responsibility for making me aware of those rules rests with me, not the house.

Chet

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