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Angling/Angle Shooting
« on: November 06, 2011, 12:08:25 AM »
I'm looking for as many different definitions as possible. Anything you have from your own rules or glossary of terms that you keep. I'm not looking for how you enforce it. Just how you define it for players or dealers or the like.
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Re: Angling/Angle Shooting
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 06:21:55 PM »
1. (n) A maneuver, usually on the border between legality and illegality (but usually clearly unethical), to take unfair advantage of another player. Extreme example: Some clubs consider putting fewer chips than required into the pot an uncompleted bet that is not valid until completed, and that, furthermore, can be removed until such time as sufficient chips are bet. (Fortunately, there aren't many such clubs.) In such a club, you bet $100 and another player puts in $99. You show your cards, which have him beat. He says, "I put in only $99; I didn't call your bet." He withdraws the chips. Of course, if he had you beat, he would quietly take the whole pot. If someone pointed out at that juncture that he called only $99, he would probably say, "Oh, pardon me, just an oversight; I meant to call," add the missing chip, and then drag the pot. All of that is part of an angle. See angle shooter. 2. (v) Perpetrate an angle. More commonly shoot an angle.

angle shooter
(n phrase) A poker player who uses various underhanded, unfair methods to take advantage of inexperienced opponents. The difference between an angle shooter and a cheat is only a matter of degree. What a cheat or thief does is patently against the rules; what an angle shooter does may be marginally legal, but it's neither ethical nor gentlemanly. Nor is it in the spirit of the game. Unfortunately, poker is not a gentleman's game. In addition to learning how to protect yourself against cheating players, you must learn to watch out for the angle shooters. See angle.

angle shot
(n) An angle, or the act of shooting an angle. Sometimes simply shot.

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Re: Angling/Angle Shooting
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 07:58:53 PM »
 It's been a while since you posted this question but after taking a better look, I would not consider the response that you received as an angle. I can't imagine a card room anywhere that would allow a player to retract his wager because it was $1 short. In fact, if he only put 50% of the bet (not 99%) he would be obligated to complete the bet, whether he wanted to or not.

 There are many moves that players can make that are "sneaky" and unethical. The first factor to consider is the intent of the player. Many players have a reputation for trying to take advantage of a situation that usually involves an inexperienced player. Moving forward with chips to get a reaction from the next player is a common move. Too often players fold before they should.

 I agree with what is listed in the second paragraph; angle shooter, that is until there is mention of poker not being a gentlemans game. I would like to think that players are protected from angle shooters, that's one of the main advantages of playing in a good poker room, with good dealers and floor persons.

 In my opinion, this is the primary reason for rules; to offer some protection to players. Too many of us can't wait to penalize a player without taking a good look who was at fault. A good casino dealer can prevent most of the problem situations from ever happening.

 Repeat offenders and players with bad reputations need to be stopped. They are the biggest threat to a successful poker room...get rid of them.