look around the 5:10 mark - 5:23 Jamie Gold and Sammy Farha see the turn without checking or even betting on the flop. How can players agree to see another card without any action? any Thoughts??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erNjXtuKawU&feature=player_embedded
Wolf, there technically was "action" on the flop per the line of thinking at the table...
1) The downcards are dealt there is a pre-flop round of betting: a) GOld smooth calls the BB w/ KK, and Farha raises pre-flop with AA... b) Gold smooth calls Farha's raise...
2) THEN, Farha declares a bet in the dark (this is a bet on the flop to come) of 10k... Gold raises this to 30k... THEN Farha re-raises Gold, again in the dark... Look at it this way, normally Farha would bet in the dark THEN the flop would come, then Gold would have the option to call or raise Farhas in-the-dark bet, (or to fold).... Instead, GOld reacted to Farha's in the dark bet by raising, also in the dark, then Farha re-raises (again in the dark.) ... AND GOLD CALLS...
3) All of this in-dark bet-raising is actually "action" on the flop, and since it's now called, there's no additional betting to occur on the flop. So the flop is dealt (with betting action completed in the dark), and thus the turn is then dealt next..... While this is all very unusual, I can't argue with the logic that the in-the-dark betting, if allowed, constintued completion of betting on the flop. Also keep in mind this is a cash game, not a tournament.