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POKER TOURNAMENT RULES QUESTIONS & DISCUSSIONS => Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General => Topic started by: MikeB on November 03, 2013, 09:07:52 AM

Title: Action out of turn: does interim all-in for less than the bet change the action?
Post by: MikeB on November 03, 2013, 09:07:52 AM

The TDA received the following interesting question, which pertains to TDA Rule 38-A, posted here anonymously:

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From: name withheld
Subject: OOP All in calls

Message Body:
Here is a situation example that I have seen occur three times in a tournament at [location withheld]

Player A = 8,000 chips
Player B = 5,000 chips
Player C = 10,000 chips

Player A pushes all in. Player C calls verbally OOP. Player B now pushes all in.

Is player C required to call? Has the action changed? In each case the second all in was less than the first all in. Does the size of C's chip stack matter?

One floor person ruled that a second all in changed the action and C is not required to call. Another floor person ruled that C must call because the action (8,000 chip bet) has not changed.

Thanks
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Title: Re: Action out of turn: does interim all-in for less than the bet change the action?
Post by: Tristan on November 03, 2013, 10:12:55 AM

A call, or undercall in this circumstance, would not be action-changing in my opinion.  C is still forced to call A's all-in.

Title: Re: Action out of turn: does interim all-in for less than the bet change the action?
Post by: Nick C on November 03, 2013, 10:30:25 AM

I agree with Tristan.

Title: Re: Action out of turn: does interim all-in for less than the bet change the action?
Post by: K-Lo on November 03, 2013, 12:46:58 PM

I agree as well.