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POKER TOURNAMENT MANAGEMENT & PROMOTION BOARDS => Event structuring => Topic started by: megalodonk on January 11, 2011, 05:11:20 AM
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Hi,
I estimate a maximum of 200 players and no matter how many of them register I would make it a two day event with the final table on the third day.
main event stack: 20.000 chips
LEVEL SMALL BLIND BIG BLIND ANTE TIME(min)
1 25 50 40
2 50 100 40
3 75 150 40
BREAK 15
4 100 200 40
5 150 300 40
6 150 300 25 40
BREAK 60
7 200 400 50 40
8 300 600 75 40
9 400 800 100 40
CHIP RACE 25 15
10 500 1000 100 40
11 600 1200 100 40
12 800 1600 200 40
END OF DAY 1
13 1000 2000 200 50
14 1500 3000 300 50
15 2000 4000 400 50
CHIP RACE 100 25
16 3000 6000 500 50
17 4000 8000 500 50
18 5000 10000 1000 50
BREAK 60
19 6000 12000 1000 50
20 8000 16000 1000 50
21 10000 20000 2000 50
BREAK 25
22 15000 30000 3000 50
23 20000 40000 4000 50
24 30000 60000 6000 50
BREAK 60
25 40000 80000 8000 50
26 50000 100000 10000 50
27 60000 120000 12000 50
BREAK 25
28 80000 160000 16000 60
It is nothing revolutionary, but I would love to hear your thoughts!
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Hi Mega. I'd suggest the following changes:
1: Starting out at 25-50 is a bit low for a 20,000 starting stack if you're just doing a 2-day event, IMO. That's starting stack=400 times the BB... I'd start out w/ higher blinds.
2: Some of your blind raising is a bit heavy, for example, when you raise from 400 to 600 (50% increase) and from 2k to 3k (50% incr) to 4k (33% incr) to 6k (50% incr again), then from 20k to 30k and 40k to 60k. Those are uncomfortably high-percentage blind increments for a classy event, I'd suggest making them a little less steep, never exceeding 25% or so increase per increment is alot more comfortable for players to play their best poker without feeling too much blind pressure
3: Introducing an ante at level 6 is a bit soon and a 25 ante given 20,000 starting stacks is just nothing. I'd start the antes a bit later, say when the BB hits 800 or 1000, and start the antes at 100 at that time. I DO like your ante % which you're keeping around plus or minus 10% of your BB, that's good, just start it a bit later at a higher BB level.
4: Your 40 to 50 time increment is fine. If you're tight for time you could start your 50's a bit later (say at level 15). You could also even do 35's to start for a few rounds, then 40's, then 45's, then 50's. Anything so that you don't have to push the blinds so much as I mentioned in item #2.
SO, with the above in mind, I'd suggest something more along these lines, given a 20k starting stack:
50-100. The average stack is 200 times the BB, that's very comfortable.
75-150.
100-200. After this, try to limit each increment to plus or minus 25% ... 125/250, 150/300, 200/400 (I know that's 33%), 250/500, 300/600, 350/700, 400/800, 500/1000 (Start Antes @100) 600/1200, 800/1600, 1000/2000, 1200/2400, 1500/3000, 2000/4000 (a 33% jump!), 2500/5000, 3000/6000 and so on.... Hope this helps, let us know what structure you finally come up with.
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It helps allot! i will get right on it!
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Mega: I just now read that you intend to have 200 players, so with this information, you can take the analysis to an important next step. You can draft up your blinds AS THOUGH you will have a full 200 turnout. Then, if the turnout isn't quite that high, you can always relax your blind structure a bit.
This way, assuming you have the full 200 turnout, you can have a blind structure that you know will get you to a final table by the end of Day 2, so that you can have your final table on Day 3. SO, let's use your initial figures:
200 Players X 20,000 starting stack = 4,000,000 Total Tournament Chips
Final Table = 4,000,000 Total Chips divided by 9 players = 444,444 average stack.
NOW, when player's stacks start reaching 10 or 15 times the big blind, presuming you have an ante, players are going to start pushing all-in, that's the key. SO, I would want to have a blind level somewhere around 444,444 / 15 towards the end of Day 2. That would be 15,000 / 30,000 with, say, a 3,000 ante would almost certainly get you to your final 9 players pretty quick. That MIGHT be a bit tough on your players so, let's say you wanted to finsih play by 12 midnight on Day 2.... You might do your final blind levels something like:
7pm 7000 / 14000 (1000 ante); 750pm 8000 / 16000 (2000 ante); 840pm 10000 / 20000 (2000 ante); 930pm 12000 / 24000 (2000 ante); 1020pm 15000 / 30000 (3000 ante). You're almost certain to have your final table somewhere between 840 and 1020, but just in case you could publish remaining blinds at 1110pm 17000 / 34000 (3000 ante), and 1200am 20000 / 40000 (4000 ante). THEN, to fill in the rest of your blind structure, just start out at 50 / 100 at the beginning of Day 1 and fill them in so that you hit 7000 / 14000 by 7pm on Day 2! On the day of the tournament, if you have a substantially smaller turnout, then you can just publish an amended schedule. For example, if you get 100 instead of 200, then just cut the blinds in half and you'll be at the same multiples of the average chip stack all the way through.