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POKER TOURNAMENT RULES QUESTIONS & DISCUSSIONS => Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General => Topic started by: Jim LeVoir on June 28, 2017, 08:41:09 AM

Title: Exposed hand to players not in hand
Post by: Jim LeVoir on June 28, 2017, 08:41:09 AM
Situation: UTG1 raises, UTG2 ships all-in, rest of table folds back to UTG1.  UTG1 is tanking and UTG2 (all-in player) shows his hand to the 2 players to his left who no longer have cards.  UTG1 then demands to see the hand. 

I have been a TD for 4 years. I tell him (UTG1) that if the 2 players that saw the hand had had live cards, I would have the hand shown.  As it is, UTG2 will get a warning for sweating his hand, but that his hand will not be shown until all action is complete, regardless of how action plays out.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: Exposed hand to players not in hand
Post by: Nick C on June 28, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
Welcome, Jim

 I'm with you on this one. They can argue for the right to see the hand, but not before calling the bet.
Title: Re: Exposed hand to players not in hand
Post by: MikeB on June 29, 2017, 01:25:10 AM
Situation: UTG1 raises, UTG2 ships all-in, rest of table folds back to UTG1.  UTG1 is tanking and UTG2 (all-in player) shows his hand to the 2 players to his left who no longer have cards.  UTG1 then demands to see the hand. 

I have been a TD for 4 years. I tell him (UTG1) that if the 2 players that saw the hand had had live cards, I would have the hand shown.  As it is, UTG2 will get a warning for sweating his hand, but that his hand will not be shown until all action is complete, regardless of how action plays out.

You're 100% right. The TDA doesn't have a specific rule on show one / show all.... the conventional rules cover that pretty well. But there's no rule that if you show to a player out of the hand that you have to show to a player who's still in during the hand. Show after the hand concludes.