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POKER TOURNAMENT RULES QUESTIONS & DISCUSSIONS => Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General => Topic started by: BIG AL on July 14, 2014, 04:56:51 AM

Title: stopping action
Post by: BIG AL on July 14, 2014, 04:56:51 AM

One interesting situation. A Bet. B Call. Board is of AKJ3 off A Bet on turn. B rase. A ALL IN and shows his cards QT player B says Call with 55!? Does the dealer or Floor can for stopping the action of player B, because a player has a nuc. The question is whether the player B deliberately wanted to transfer the chips to players A? I do not know, just asking. Whether this action can be stopped or we, as representatives of the houses do not have anything with that? Tnx

Title: Re: stopping action
Post by: Tristan on July 14, 2014, 04:15:46 PM

I do not think it is wise for ourselves to involve ourselves in that scenario.  The way you described it, Player A had a pair of Ks with the straight draw and Player B has a pair of 5s.  Technically, Player B can still win this hand!  Even if Player A had the straight and Player B wanted to call with 5s, I don't think it is our job to educate the players.  Now if there is some sort of history between these two players, that may be different.

Player A should be warned or penalized for showing his hand to Player B.

Title: Re: stopping action
Post by: BIG AL on July 14, 2014, 04:53:19 PM

Sorry my mistake in writing!I corrected my post. Player A have QT bord AJK3 Player B have 55. A have nuc hand.

Title: Re: stopping action
Post by: K-Lo on July 18, 2014, 06:27:55 AM

Maybe B thought A was bluffing and only paired his the 3?

Title: Re: stopping action
Post by: BIG AL on July 19, 2014, 03:52:36 AM

Player A  showed his cards. His card is open. Player B sees a nuc combination, and still want to pay. We can stop him to pay or not?

Title: Re: stopping action
Post by: Nicolas Bouis on July 19, 2014, 04:14:08 AM

I'm new but if you are sure that B saw cards and he saw that he can't win then chip dumping is not allowed (rule 61 ?) and players are disqualified (both player are in the rule), chips are out of the tournament.

If not sure then why stop the game ? Player A made a fault (warning) and Player B a very big mistake he payed by loosing chips.

Title: Re: stopping action
Post by: K-Lo on July 21, 2014, 06:53:17 AM

Oh sorry, I missed that. I think it wouldn't be out of place to ask him why he called after seeing the opponent already had a straight.  However, without more evidence of chip dumping (e.g. history), it would be hard for me to give a penalty here.  We don't really know if he misread A's hand, and then of course, B maybe thought he could still win (and he can by drawing a 5). This is something I see a lot with weaker players ("I had a pair, I couldn't fold...") In general, I agree with Tristan here.