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POKER TOURNAMENT RULES QUESTIONS & DISCUSSIONS => Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General => Topic started by: Uniden32 on March 27, 2017, 04:14:16 PM

Poll
Question: When a player tosses out a single chip, which do you use to determine if he said raise in time ?
Option 1: Before the chip hits the felt. votes: 4
Option 2: Before the chip leaves their hand. votes: 2
Option 3: As long as it's close to when the chip hits the felt. votes: 3
Title: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: Uniden32 on March 27, 2017, 04:14:16 PM
Just curious as to when everyone else is drawing the line in the sand as to when a player has to say their intentions when tossing out a chip.
Title: Re: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: BillM16 on March 27, 2017, 05:07:30 PM
Good morning Uniden32,

While not by TDA Rule ... around here the social gaming clubs use a house rule of: "A single silent chip is always a call."  This is true whether it is a smaller or larger chip when facing a bet.  Of course, when not facing a bet (post-flop), the single chip is a min-bet if smaller than the BB or a full-chip bet when larger than the BB.

Regards,
B~
Title: Re: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: Uniden32 on March 27, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
Bill,

I was more interested in the aspect of timing.  Do you allow the player to say Raise:
While the chip is airborne ? 
As the chip hits the felt ?
Before the chip hits the felt ?

Or, like me, must the player say Raise before the chip leaves the player's hand.
Title: Re: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: GreggPath on March 27, 2017, 07:02:13 PM
My vote was for it being close to when the chip hits the felt. The point of the rule (I think) is to prevent a player from making his decision based on the reaction of other players. If it's close (and I mean real close... less than a second) to the time when the chip hit the felt, the verbal declaration should hold. It's not enough time for a player to have a reaction, much less to decipher the reaction. If a case can be made that elite players (or those who are really good at reading faces) could, in fact, read the reaction of other players in that short time, then I would change my vote to the chip hitting the felt.

PS I am assuming that when you say "close" you are referring to after the chip has hit the felt.
Title: Re: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: Max D on March 27, 2017, 07:11:14 PM
I would say as long it is close...  if sliding the chip, before it leaves their hand...
Title: Re: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: Motobaka72 on April 16, 2017, 04:30:03 AM
Quote from: Max D on March 27, 2017, 07:11:14 PM
I would say as long it is close...  if sliding the chip, before it leaves their hand...

+1
This is the way we do it.
Title: Re: Tossing out a single chip.
Post by: Brian Vickers on May 16, 2017, 07:42:13 AM
Before it hits the felt, but if it's close, tie goes to the player.