Okay guys,
You do it your way and I'll do it according to Robert's Rules.
Why should all players cards be turned up when there is an all-in, only?
K-lo, I have to say that I'm surprised that you don't recognize the problems that showing the all-in hand can create. Were you ever a dealer?
Nick - I'm just trying to understand what your issue is so I can make a contribution. I'm assuming that is why you started the thread. Your last statement here seems a bit derogatory, but I hope I am simply misconstruing the tone. I have been dealing cards for 20 years and now train dealers for a recreational league. Lawyer by day, TD by night. I'm not purporting to be an expert on the Rules, just someone who can offer suggestions for improvement based on my own experiences.
If your issue is "Why should all players cards be turned up when there is an all-in"? Then I would say simply because the TDA Rule currently says so.
If your issue is "should the TDA Rule that says so be changed so as not to require that players cards be turned up when there is an all-in", then this is a different question which was not clear from your original post. Perhaps there is some history here that I have no knowledge of.
Right now, I interpret the TDA Rule as overriding the general rule in the RROP. This is why I can accept the fact that in cash games, players do not need to flip up their hands in an all-in situations, but in tournaments, it is necessary to do so in order to comply with the TDA Rule. I had assumed that this was the case possibly to minimize the possibility of chip dumping, which would arguably be a more important issue in tournaments to protect other players, than in a cash game. Is it that you would prefer that cards not be shown in an all-in situation in tournaments as well? Personally, I don't feel strongly either way.
Or is your issue that the reverse ought to be true - that all cards should be turned up at showdown even in non-all-in situations?
So far, we have agreed on a lot of things. I just don't understand your point of this post yet, maybe if I did I would agree with it too.