Shimi664, IMO your question reveals the unsound reasoning of those who believe that Rule #15 somehow prevents collusion and chip dumping. I cannot imagine two cheaters that would be foolish enough to fall into this "foolproof trap." Still, as you will see, there are several forum members who disagree and believe in this fallacy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I believe that real cheaters are smart enough to fold off there chips to their partners. Maybe we should make a rule that says you must always show your folded hands?