Mike,
No problem. I'll try to recall what I wrote and see how your answers apply.
When I wrote: "If Player C just pushed, (and said nothing) he would be liable for 2000 only." The rest of my quote that was omitted made reference to; announcing call first. You said: "Nick I don't think there's a TDA rule that specifically says he's only liable for the 2000. There is a TDA rule that says the 2000 put in the pot in turn must stay in. Whether to force a call or allow the guy to fold and forfeit the 2000 here, IMO, is a TD decision. As I mentioned in previous post, I'm more inclined to consider it in this situation than if the guy declares "call" first.
The point I was trying to make was: Because Player C "said" call first, he becomes liable for the full amount, TDA # 34 Verbal Declarations in turn are binding. The intent of the player was the same but, because he voiced his unintentional call, he is at the mercy of the floor. If Player C just pushed 2000 forward, thinking that was the bet, he would not have been liable for the full 7000, correct?
I have always taught players to make their intentions clear by announcing their bets and raises. The current rules send a message that silence might be a safer way to go.
My thoughts: Player C did not know there was a raise to 7000 in front of him, he pushed 2000 forward and said "I call."
The floor is called, what are the possible solutions? I will add the options EmbroTim listed with option D that I also thought would apply:
A. Give Player C his full range of options (call, raise, or fold) -- and if he decides to fold, he may retract the 2,000 he placed out.
B. Allow Player C to either place out an additional 5,000 for the call, or fold and forfeit the 2,000.
C. Commit Player C to calling the full 7,000.
D. Allow Player C to call 7000 only, with no option to raise.
My first question pertains to TDA # 32 Substantial Action. Does this rule apply to our situation, or not?
Second question: Can we ever; stop the action and correct a wager before substantial action occurs?