Nick.
I, respectfully, believe that you're confusing what is allowable in home games or fast and loose bar or club games with they way that things should be in organized tournaments in reputable casinos, such the WSOP, WSOPE, WSOP Circuit, WPT, etc.
Quite often, when debating issues like this, people have opposing views and, no matter how many examples or explanations are given by either side, many people still stubbornly hold to their positions, myself included.
If you, or anyone, believes that the TDA rules should be written more clearly to apply to specific situations, such as the ones that have been and are discussed in this forum, I encourage everyone to make the suggested changes.
I thank everyone for their opinions and their input.