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POKER TOURNAMENT MANAGEMENT & PROMOTION BOARDS => Event structuring => Topic started by: Pietro3000 on May 20, 2018, 07:44:48 AM
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Hello,
A request from a customer was to set a KO tournament but also allowing R/A.
The one that will take the bounty is whoever eliminate the player the last, even if the player may be zero out multiple times and allowed to R/A within a grace period.
This sort of structure may lead to other players complaints, do you guys thing that R/A can or cannot be compatible with KO format. Should we forced make players to pay for the bounty if zero out.
Or should I dis encourage the customer to apply such mix formats.
Regards
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You can allow rebuys, but the rebuy must include a new bounty, with the original bounty going to the player that knocked him out.
Add-ons should only be allowed at the time of the buy-in or rebuy.
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Pietro,
As we all know, the TDA does not provide official rules or guidelines on bounty tournaments.
IMO: Tournament structures can include bounties, reentries, rebuys, add-ons, etc., in as many varieties as one can imagine. Obviously, most important is that tournament rules and structure are made very clear before players enter the tournament. Of course, finding a structure that pleases all players is likely impossible.
Most often, (as Dave said above,) a bounty is included with each rebuy or reentry. However, I have seen rebuy tournaments where only at the end of the rebuy period an additional add-on/bounty is offered to those who are still in the tournament. To win a bounty, one must have purchased the add-on/bounty. If a bounty player is busted by a non-bounty player, the bounty chip is carried into subsequent pots until a bounty player wins. This format is similar (but different) to a last-longer prop bet.
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We used to run a KO with rebuys, but it was not very popular. Each rebuy gave a new bounty. For example, if a person had a buy in they got a KO chip and if they bought a rebuy while they still had chips they were given an extra KO chip. A player could then have a lot of KO chips.
Player with buy in 1 KO chip
Player loses some chips, so he may rebuy then he gets a second KO chip
Players now has 2 KO chips
Player loses enough chips to be able to make a new rebuy, so he gets a third KO chip
Player now has 3 KO chips
If he does not lose all his chips he can continue to accumulate KO chips.
If he loses all his chips and makes a rebuy then all his previous KO chips go to the person that won his chips.
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I once played in a charity event with a rebuy option, but here's the twist: You only give up your bounty if you choose to not rebuy (or after the rebuy period). It was VERY unpopular. After all, a player could be making a play in hopes of winning the bounty, then when the short stack loses, have the option of not surrendering that bounty? I never played at that charity's events again.
I.E. If you're felted, you must give up the bounty. If you then elect to rebuy, you must also buy a new bounty chip.
Moto: I don't see your system being popular at all. Plus it's a nightmare in keeping track of the bounties. How can you tell which bounty chips are those the player won and can keep vs those that are part of an add-on which must be surrendered? Additionally, a player with multiple live bounty chips becomes a bigger target.
No. I'll repeat what I said before: Add-ons are only allowed when buying in, or at the end of the re-buy period. And they don't include an additional bounty.
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Moto: I don't see your system being popular at all.
You are correct it wasn’t, but it did have its followers. Too few to keep it running though.
Plus it's a nightmare in keeping track of the bounties. How can you tell which bounty chips are those the player won and can keep vs those that are part of an add-on which must be surrendered?
Bountys from eliminated players are payed immediately with a cash chip. Dealer takes care of this and announces it to the floor.
Additionally, a player with multiple live bounty chips becomes a bigger target.
Correct, that was the idea. Like a Progressive Knock Out.
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Same comment as above when I ran a bounty tourney the bounty money was included in the buy-in & rebuys. No add-ons.