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How do blind bets affect substantial action?

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BROOKS:
Nick - I'm not saying you  said that
There is quoted text in my reply, from Uniden. That is what I was replying to.

Nick C:
Brooks,

 Sorry for the confusion. I guess I'm trying to figure out exactly what Uniden means when he said: "None of these actions are actions until the last card is pitched."

 There are rules that govern "action in turn" I'm not familiar with any rule that instructs us to wait until the last card is dealt or that tells us we have to look at our cards before betting.

 I believe, if you act in turn and that action is followed by "substantial action," the hand should proceed.

 Calling a "misdeal" has always been a "last resort" and should be avoided whenever possible. So, my vote goes for correcting the error of the misplaced button before any player has received a complete hand. This way you don't hear any complaining from the guy that was dealt pocket kings only to have you try to take them away from him! Good luck with that one. :D

Uniden32:

--- Quote from: BROOKS on March 25, 2017, 07:18:27 AM ---So I don't think you can say that substantial action can only occur after the last card is dealt.

--- End quote ---

You can't have substantial action before the last card is pitched, any actions occurring before the pitch is complete would be considered action out of turn.

Nick C:
Ralph,

 Is that written anywhere? Don't believe I've ever seen that before you mentioned it. I recall many times when action began following the blinds and it was discovered that the button only had one card. The ruling was: as long as it is discovered before the dealer burns and turns the flop, the button is entitled to the top card of the deck...his "proper card." This, of course, would precede his betting.

Max D:

--- Quote from: Uniden32 on March 26, 2017, 07:17:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: BROOKS on March 25, 2017, 07:18:27 AM ---So I don't think you can say that substantial action can only occur after the last card is dealt.

--- End quote ---

You can't have substantial action before the last card is pitched, any actions occurring before the pitch is complete would be considered action out of turn.

--- End quote ---
This is not in TDA, as soon as player received their second card they can act in turn, I dont remember seeing a case where the player as to wait for the other players to get their second card.

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