Mrsvelvet,
I would not expect to change the policy of your dealers, if it works for you. I do need to let anyone that is interested in the proper procedures for casino poker that stacking the muck is not acceptable in any poker room. There are too many questions indicating this type of problem whenever professional dealers are not used. A good dealer is not going to kill a hand that is protected. I can't imagine any dealer stacking discards in a nice neat pile without the risk of exposing a card or two. Passing the deal around the table is not even a subject that is covered by any rules that I've ever seen, so I guess you can do whatever works for your tournament. Hire some real dealers and see how much smoother your tournament goes.
Nick c
Nick c
A couple of things... firstly..
Maybe I read Stuarts post wrong? in which case I apologise for any confusion arising from my post, but IMO...
If you read Stuarts original post you will see that he clearly states that this was a "Button Deals Game" (so no professional dealer) further more when reading Stuarts post it reads to me as if this was a "Non Casino / Card Room" Venue (possibly a Nuts Local Pub League game?) with a Non Professional Local TD and as such I answered accordingly from that point of view.
Regards my revision of "table policy" this is only implemented for my "Local Pub League Venues" which are all self / Button dealt as are all UK Pub Poker Leagues (unless it is a final which may then be held in a casino but even then not all leagues provide professional dealers until the last couple of tables or even final table, and again I only included this suggestion because I read Stuarts post to be from the "Local League" point of view and it has worked very well for us over the last 18 months.
Perhaps I was a little to literal in using the "Tidely stacked" comment, what I meant is that the cards are not left strewn across the table and that the muck cards are gathered in one place away from the dealers own hole cards, In Professional level tournaments with Professional Dealers in a Professional environment this would never be an issue but again I stress that my reply was from the "Local League" perspective and not from the "Professional Card Room / Casino" level.
I hope that clarifies my reply to Stuart for you
Secondly....
As for your "Hire some real dealers" Comment, I found that to be on the verge of insulting and take exception to it, my involvement with the TDA forum is so that I can bring the correct rules / rulings and standards to players and tournaments which are at the very grass-roots of poker in the UK, in doing so I deal with the absolute poker beginner and amateur level players everyday of the week and probably deal with issues that the Professional Casino / Card room TD does not have to so that by the time that player comes to the casino or pro tournament that you are running you don't have to deal with those issues. I am not here to listen to yours or anyone else's condescending remarks and I am sure that not what the TDA is about, If I am wrong I welcome the correction as I am here to learn just the same as everyone else but if all you have to offer are insults I suggest you keep them to yourself.