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POKER TOURNAMENT RULES QUESTIONS & DISCUSSIONS => Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General => Topic started by: Martin Roy TD on April 20, 2016, 11:40:39 AM

Title: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: Martin Roy TD on April 20, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
Hi Guys,

I will like to know what are your procedures when you finish Day 1 of an event and players bag their chips for Day 2.

Ex : Put the chips in a bag, players count it, floor count it, only players count it.  your gave them a receipt to pick up their bag, etc...

How do you do it ?
Title: Re: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: Brian Vickers on April 21, 2016, 10:29:39 AM
Two employees (generally Floor & dealer) and the player confirm chip count.  This amount is written on a slip of paper along with player name.  Supervisor and player sign the slip.  Slip is sealed in the bag along with chips.  Write player name in sharpee on outside of bag to find it easy.

Day of tournament drop the bags off in each seat.  If player isn't there by time cards are in the air, cut open bag, dump out chips but dont stack.  Leave bag and slip with chips so you don't lose track of whose chips are whose.  Have dealer check ID or Player Card when players claim their chips.

Not saying these are instructions on how to do it, just how I have done it in the past.
Title: Re: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: Martin Roy TD on April 21, 2016, 10:51:43 AM
Two employees (generally Floor & dealer) and the player confirm chip count.  This amount is written on a slip of paper along with player name.  Supervisor and player sign the slip.  Slip is sealed in the bag along with chips.  Write player name in sharpee on outside of bag to find it easy.

Day of tournament drop the bags off in each seat.  If player isn't there by time cards are in the air, cut open bag, dump out chips but dont stack.  Leave bag and slip with chips so you don't lose track of whose chips are whose.  Have dealer check ID or Player Card when players claim their chips.

Not saying these are instructions on how to do it, just how I have done it in the past.

Do you have often problem that the stack is not matching what is on the coupon ?  (Misscount)

We are using the same method except this we don't double check the chip count with the players.
Title: Re: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: Uniden32 on April 22, 2016, 08:36:15 AM
When we bag, we give the player a Bagging Slip (in triplicate), a bag (Fort Knox Deposit Bags), and a seating pass.

We require the player to write:

Name
Chip Counts
New Seating Assignments (table/seat) on the bag and slip.

We have a dealer check to make sure they put all this information on both the bags and slips, and verify that the player put their chips, yellow slip, and seating pass into the bags before the player seals the bag themselves.

The triplicate copy of the Bagging Slips are split up as follows:

White Copy - to the Dealer.  We use these copies to generate our Chip Count and Seating Assignment files that we tweet out and put on 2+2.
Yellow Copy - in the Bag with their chips, and new seating pass
Pink Copy - Player's receipt.  They don't need this when they return for Day, but they must provide a valid photo ID that the dealers match to the bags/yellow slips on Day 2.

We only verify chip counts and IDs for winner's of Chip Leader and Multiple bagging bonuses.

We use the same Day 2 procedures as Brian does.
Title: Re: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: Martin Roy TD on April 25, 2016, 07:46:52 AM
Do you guys know if WSOP with several hundreds of players left after every flight double counting all the stacks with the players ?

I have tournament of over 1,000 players very often and the only time the dealer double count with the player we had to correct a mistake...

Day 2 : - Players are assign to their new seat (available online after ending of Day 1)
            - Bags are already on the table (Fort Knox bag)
            - Players has to show a valid ID to our dealer.
            - After that, they are allowed to open their bag.
Players who are late, we open the bag and put some chips on the table. (Not all of them and Not stacked)
Title: Re: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: WSOPMcGee on May 04, 2016, 12:11:56 AM
Do you guys know if WSOP with several hundreds of players left after every flight double counting all the stacks with the players ?
Our staff does not verify chip counts.
Title: Re: Day 1 to Day 2
Post by: Martin Roy TD on May 10, 2016, 06:49:33 AM
We always write in our Poker Blog that the chips counts may have error, that players are responsible but can make mistake.