Hi all was discussing this with Wolfster the other night too, have been aware that no hand should be discussed, have said when on a table that the hand is dead if you declare but realise it's only a penalty that is needed but as Wolf points out this is in the pub and we do come up against the few that insist on saying what they have got thinking it will sound like a bluff and draw people in despite our comments to keep quiet. having watched endless hours of tv poker what some don't seem to get is that the pro's especially some one like devilfish are not announcing their hand or trying to specifically call another hand but are looking for tells as they run through the possibilities, prime example was the Fish on the heads up games the other night, nearly every hand He didnt stop talking the odds etc hoping to drag the other guy into the pit of despair lol, been playing in the nuts for nearly 4 years now and have met some real loud talkers but soem of us quiet ones are still there lol