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Showdown order for non-flop games (Rule 16)

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K-Lo:
I noticed the Showdown rule has been amended slightly from the previous version in the new rules:

"If there was no bet in the last round...In stud, the player with the high board must show first. In razz, the lowest board shows first"

has been changed to

"If there was no bet on the final street, then the player who would be first to act in a betting round must table first... high up card in stud, low card in razz, etc"

Perhaps the change from "board" to "up card"/"low card" was unintentional?  The high board should indicate which player is to show first in Stud/Stud 8, and the low board in Razz/Razzdugi if there is no betting on seventh street.

MikeB:
K: Nice catch, will probably put that change through immediately.

MikeB:

--- Quote from: K-Lo on August 10, 2013, 11:05:02 AM ---I noticed the Showdown rule has been amended slightly from the previous version in the new rules:

"If there was no bet in the last round...In stud, the player with the high board must show first. In razz, the lowest board shows first"

has been changed to

"If there was no bet on the final street, then the player who would be first to act in a betting round must table first... high up card in stud, low card in razz, etc"

Perhaps the change from "board" to "up card"/"low card" was unintentional?  The high board should indicate which player is to show first in Stud/Stud 8, and the low board in Razz/Razzdugi if there is no betting on seventh street.

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This important error has now been changed in Version 1.1 of the 2013 rules here:
http://www.pokertda.com/poker-tda-rules/

Many thanks to Ken for catching this....

Nick C:
We have discussed this on other threads. If there is no bet on the final betting round, wouldn't that indicate that the round was checked? Therefore, the first player to check would be first to show...correct? This would cover any game. Stud, razz, hold'em...any game.

MikeB:

--- Quote from: Nick C on August 11, 2013, 07:25:46 PM ---We have discussed this on other threads. If there is no bet on the final betting round, wouldn't that indicate that the round was checked? Therefore, the first player to check would be first to show...correct? This would cover any game. Stud, razz, hold'em...any game.

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Nick: that is correct. We can also call that player "the player who would be first to act in a betting round", which is the language finally adopted. As you point out, this applies to ANY game! Quite an advancement IMO.

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