What Penalty

[Ricky9]

What penalties can you impose on a cash game?

[chet]

Whatever penalties you have provided for in your House Rules.  Cash Games are governed by House and local Gaming Authority Rules.  The TDA does not have any involvement in cash game operations other than to provide space in this forum for members to discuss cash game questions.

I suggest you research what the rules and regulations are that apply to your location.

[Ricky9]

We were governed by the British Gambling Commission, but they have wiped their hands of poker in the main, there is now no legislation for a licensed cardroom.
My question is basically in a tournament 1,2,or 3 orbits/DQ are used as a penalty. In cash, how is that penalizing a player? Apart from throwing them out of the cardroom how should minor misdemeanors be handled?

[Brian Vickers]

This depends on the severity and the frequency of the violation, but in our card room the basic scale resembles this.  You can go more lenient or more severe as needed, this is just our basic guide.  Multiple warnings could suffice for minor infractions, you can always ask a player to leave one day and if he does it again the next ask him to leave again for another day.
1st - Warning
2nd - Ask player to leave for the day
3rd - 30 day ban
4th - Another 30 day ban
5th - 1 year ban

I do not like the idea of making a player sit out in a live game as you would in a tournament, as it is hurting the entire table.  In a tournament that player loses blinds and antes for that round, but in a live game he does not, and the other players are left playing shorter handed.

Just be sure to stress the seriousness of the situation to the player and a stern warning should suffice in most instances.  I have rarely gone farther than asking a player to leave for the day.

[Jorge]

Hi all;
In our cash game or cardroom, the usual bad behavior is the obscene language against the employees.
Our penalties are similar as Brian says.
My question is, who does have to make a decision of Penalty; Floor, pit boss or , manager?

Yours.

[Stuart Murray]

Hi Ricky,

I would refer to a previous post by myself in where I stated; "A 30minute penalty does little for the game, in cash game I either a) warn or b) exclude, nothing inbetween, in tournaments i penalise. giving penalties at a cash game just shortens the rake."

I generally find a warning should suffice in cash, cash game players are more competent and angle far less than tournament players in my experience.  If there is a specific situation (which usually involves excess alcohol) I would simply remove the player from the casino for the night/and or exclude permanently depending on the situation.  Why have a player on a 1 orbit penalty when we can have another player in that seat and earn the rake from them instead?  Cash Tables exist afterall to generate profit by way of rake.  By throwing that player out for poor behaviour (even just until the next day) it sends a clear message that unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated.

Regards
Stuart

[Spence]

It seems that most people on this thread want to kick people out. If you have someone who simply won't folllow rules, then eject them from the poker room. Our rule is that a player will be warned, then have his chips racked and asked to leave for an hour, and only then further action will be taken. We have issues with players who come from home games and have never played in a casino before and often the only way to get them to follow the rules is to ask them to take a walk. If they are acting like children, treat them that way. Make them stand in the corner while the other kids get to play.

[alex]

Hi all, what if the cash game is based on hourly session fee , would a 30 min penalty affect the player.ty

[Kendalizor]

I think that could depend on the house rule but generally if there are chips on the table taking up a seat they still pay the fee. That is a good question.