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Minimum Raise when facing a short all-in

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Brian Vickers:
I knew a similar thread exists http://www.pokertda.com/forum/index.php?topic=263.0 and although I believe I understand the consensus of the responses matches up with my view on the matter, I thought this was an important enough topic to warrant another view (also, that poll did not include what I believe was the correct answer).

On the flop, player A bets $30, player B raises to $130, player C goes all-in for $198.  Player A asks "what's the minimum amount I can raise it to?".  

I'll allow you guys to respond first before I tell you the floorperson's call, and what I believe to be the correct amount.

Brian Vickers:
I posted this in "general" and not live, because it pertains to NL in general, and should be universal between live and tournaments.  I'm 100% sure what the correct answer is, but would like to have the discussion to make sure everyone's on the same page.

Nick C:
I'll say  a $100 raise to $298 because the all-in raise was only $68.

Stuart Murray:
Player A Bets 30, Player B Raises to 130 total (A raise of 100) player c goes all-in with an action only 198 (a non-full raise of 68) therefore options open to player a are: Call 198, Fold, raise a minimum of 298 total (198+100)

so to sum up, ditto Nicks response.

Best Stu

Brian Vickers:
I agree with Nick and Stuart, and my ruling would have been $298 as well.  The floor and dealers that day came up with the number of $230 saying that a minimum raise would have been to complete the short all-in, which I knew to be incorrect and without basis in NL (and also incorrect even if it were Limit since the all-in was more than 50%).

TY for your responses. 

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