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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Tabling of Hand - Card Off Table
« Last post by Chubby9811 on March 14, 2024, 05:35:14 PM »
Tournament is down to 5/269.  Player A moves all in, Player B calls all in.  Player A tables their hand, AsKc.  Player B starts to table their hand and it catches the felt and both cards start to fly off table, video review shows that Player B did nothing out of ordinary and was attempting to table the hand appropriately.  Player B is able to stop 1 card and it lands face up on the rail.  Card 2 goes past rail, Player B catches the card in his hand, just above his lap.

Dealer unable to identify the two cards - other than they were both hearts. 

Cards were AhQh.

What would you rule and why?

Thanks
Don Tinordi
Poker Manager - ACE Poker Room - Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Color Down Single Oversize Chip
« Last post by Dave Miller on March 10, 2024, 05:53:21 PM »
I couldn't find a rule or procedure for this, but I think there should be.

At the start of any hand, if a player has a single oversize chip, or two chips of a size that can make the action unclear, the dealer should color it down at the first opportunity - before it's that player's turn to act. At least in poker rooms where the dealers work from track and color up pots during the regular action. I.E. The dealer has the chips to do it without asking a player.

I make this suggestion because I work from a rack in my pub league, and too often I've run into the situation where the player puts his last chip in, and assumes it's all in since it was all his chips - or mumbles something forcing me to ask for clarification.

For example, the blinds are 300/600 and a player has a single 1K chip, or two 500 chips, and nothing else. Breaking down the chips to one 500 and five 100, would make silent action obvious when it's his turn.

Otherwise, asking for a clarification effectively gives the player time to gauge reactions and change their intention.

In this scenario the difference is relatively insignificant. But what if the player was down to a single 5k chip?
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2024 POKER TDA SUMMIT XI / Registration is now open
« Last post by BROOKS on March 09, 2024, 08:24:49 AM »
You can now register for the upcoming 2024 Summit here:

https://www.pokertda.com/the-poker-tda-summit/2024-poker-tda-summit-xi/
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General discussion of poker industry topics / Re: 2024 Summit
« Last post by Dave Miller on February 27, 2024, 04:00:49 AM »
Thanks for the update.

Unfortunately, I have a wedding to go to on the 30th. ☹️

Maybe next time….
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General discussion of poker industry topics / Re: 2024 Summit
« Last post by BROOKS on February 25, 2024, 07:31:33 PM »
Was just posted. June 29, 30 2024
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Foreign Language Translations / Re: Working on french translation of version 2022
« Last post by weazzle on February 23, 2024, 01:51:50 AM »
I've already started the translation.
After the summit I'll adapt this version. It will be less work later to add only the changes.
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Foreign Language Translations / Re: Working on french translation of version 2022
« Last post by BROOKS on February 22, 2024, 09:02:30 PM »
Might as well just wait? As there is going to be another Summit in a few months.
Why not wait until after 2024 Summit and translate that?
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Foreign Language Translations / Re: Working on french translation of version 2022
« Last post by weazzle on February 21, 2024, 08:13:28 AM »
Bonjour,

Le sujet est un peu vieux, mais je me permets de le relancer.

Je suis très intéressé par une "bonne" traduction en français de la version 2022. Je suis actuellement en cours de traduction pour une utilisation privé. Mon but serait de la proposer afin de l'intégrer dans l'App Android (à ce que j'ai vu la version IOS est déjà abandonnée).

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Hello,

The subject is a bit old, but I'll take the liberty of starting it up again.

I'm very interested in a "good" French translation of version 2022. I'm currently translating it for private use. My goal would be to offer it for integration into the Android App (from what I've seen, the IOS version has already been abandoned).
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: 2 cases folding too soon
« Last post by BROOKS on February 06, 2024, 10:18:27 PM »
Yes, according to TDA rules, Max is correct. In both situations the players could have their cards back - as long as they were identifiable and retrievable. Which shouldn't be the case, since in both scenerios, other players have folded after them.

Here is the TDA wording. Although it is talking about showdown, the same should apply.

14: Live Cards at Showdown
Discarding non-tabled cards face down does not automatically kill them; players may change their minds and table cards that remain 100% identifiable and retrievable. Cards are killed by the dealer when pushed into the muck or otherwise rendered irretrievable and unidentifiable.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: 2 cases folding too soon
« Last post by Max D on February 02, 2024, 09:48:25 AM »
In both cases I think we can use substantial action rule, there are "no arm no foul",  the card are retrievable and nobody as "subtantially acted".
Give the card back and keep going.
 
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