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Foreign Language Translations / FRENCH Translation TDA 2017
« Last post by Boris Mauboussin on Today at 10:08:53 AM »
Hello folks,

You can find my translation right here : https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bynkya1N2PXKX1BhX3FaUHFndE0
No sign-in required

Update notes :
  • (word file) Added a list system for numbering with multiple level (Main level is Number, 1st sublevel is Capital letters, 2nd sublevel is number). This will be more handy for next version for new rules
  • Made a few orthographic and grammar fixes
  • Made some clarity adjustments
  • The use of French terms is now more frequent

Regards,
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Dealer pulls card into the deck
« Last post by Nick C on October 16, 2017, 06:20:00 PM »
mateuslp,

 I really don't see any other way out. There is only one person who saw the cards in question...and he mucked them. Do you really want to go there? You don't need any future scenario to occur where a player doesn't like the board so his buddy claims he discarded some of the board cards!

 If the player recognized one or more cards from his discarded hand immediately, that might change my answer. However, you said the dealer placed the mucked hand on top of the deck so the complete flop was the dead hand. Nothing was said until after the turn and river...too late if you ask me.

 The best hand wins and hopefully, a lesson learned about keeping the muck separate from the deck stub!
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Dealer pulls card into the deck
« Last post by mateuslp on October 16, 2017, 01:53:00 PM »
Sorry about that. I'm the TD on the house so whenever I hear something weird happening on the cash tables I try to figure how it woulda been handled on the tournament. So, no other way other than possibly accepting the board? Maybe taking those 4 cards and reshuffling?
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Foreign Language Translations / Re: Foreign Language Versions
« Last post by Boris Mauboussin on October 14, 2017, 05:13:55 PM »
2017 French Translation in your mailbox 😉
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Dealer pulls card into the deck
« Last post by Nick C on October 13, 2017, 02:35:56 PM »
mateuslp,

 First of all, it would be preferable if this were posted in the cash game category. There are some games when the deal is passed among the players. They do not use a non-competing house dealer. However, even "passing the deal" should offer much better protection for the deck. Even way back in the day, I don't recall placing the deck stub on the table until the dealing is done.

 Getting back to your (horrible) situation. Why didn't the player speak up before all board cards were tabled? Hard to prove that's what happened...Also, substantial action would dictate the hand remain with no change to any board cards.

 The only solution for a very unlikely scenario. Probably won't hear this one again...at least I hope not! ::)
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Dealer pulls card into the deck
« Last post by mateuslp on October 12, 2017, 06:00:51 PM »
Hello, this happened on one of our tables in a cash game. Game was PLO, $1/$2.
A couple bets happened pre-flop, one players folds to a $10 bet, and dealer pulls his 4 cards into the deck (since it's cash game, dealers are allowed to deal with the deck sitting on the table ).
Dealer deals the flop, and 3 players went all-in. Burns, and deal the turn, burns and deal the river. After that, a player who folded on the flop claims that the 3 cards he folded were on the board ( since it was omaha, his 4th card was the burn ) as the dealer placed his cards on top of the deck.
How would you guys rule? Any difference if it were tournament play?
Thanks!
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Common sense dictates that it would be at the table you are seating at (if not then why insist that you be at your seat) but it is true that the wording could leave people to interpret the way you describe it.  Maybe something that could be covered in 2019 to "tighten" the language, unless it is really supposed to be anyone at the event can call the clock at any table...
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Hello folks,

Rule 70: Etiquette Violations refers to an unexisting Rule 72

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70: Etiquette Violations
Etiquette violations are subject to enforcement actions in Rule 72. Examples include but are not limited to: persistent delay of the game, unnecessarily touching another player’s person, cards or chips, repeatedly acting out of turn, betting out of reach of the dealer, abusive conduct, and excessive chatter.

At the time I am writing this, there are only 71 Rules in TDA2017 =)

I guess the correct writing is "subject to enforcement actions in Rule 71"


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Yes, this a (poor) figure of speech which I need to fix =)
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 I think you should retract your remark about kidding.

I think the way you described it is exactly what is intended.
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