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 on: May 22, 2013, 05:40:18 PM 
Started by MikeB - Last post by MikeB
POKER TDA EXAM WILL CLOSE FOR UPDATE AFTER TDA SUMMIT VI
 
The current Poker TDA Certification Exam will close for updating to the new rules after TDA Summit VI. The exam platform will re-open after the 2013 TDA Rules are published and new Q&A's have been written.

The exact date of closure will coincide with release of TDA Rules Version 1.0 which historically has been in late July or early August following each Summit. The exam will remain closed until questions have been written consistent with the new rules, a process that typically takes at least one month after the release of the rules. The bottom line is that the exam may be closed for several months after TDA Summit VI.

Persons interested in obtaining TDA Certification may either take the current exam now (Certification will remain in effect for at least 2 years) or wait until the new test opens later in the year.

Certifications issued prior to 2011 have now expired. The list of TDs with current TDA Certification is located here: http://www.pokertda.com/forum/index.php?topic=720.0.

For more information on earning or renewing TDA certification, please visit the online TDA exam site: http://www.pokertda.com/get-poker-tda-certified/

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 on: May 22, 2013, 02:47:30 PM 
Started by K-Lo - Last post by K-Lo
I don't mind that Bryan, and of course, if you find the chips early enough that you can complete the chip race properly, that would be preferable.  But do you think that by automatically rounding up, that players will have more incentive to hide chips rather than to put them forward to be colored-up (or worse, keep chips in the pocket or hidden and take them out after the break ends or just before the hand starts)? 

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 on: May 22, 2013, 10:33:38 AM 
Started by K-Lo - Last post by Brian Vickers
What about if there was no time lapse?  For instance, before the break is even over you discover 2 odd "25" chips in a player's stack, but the race has already concluded.  Either the dealer or floor overlooked them.  Options as I see are: A) Round it up B) Remove from play C) Get creative.  Give him two cards and if his high card was higher than the lowest high card, take it back from the other player's stack?  This of course requires that you remember what the lowest high card was and who it went to, so it's very impractical in most cases.

IMO if the chips are discovered before the first hand gets dealt after the race, then just round up.  After one hand, remove from play.

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 on: May 22, 2013, 08:55:01 AM 
Started by K-Lo - Last post by K-Lo
An interesting proposal by Barry Greenstein to establish Player Committees to "assist" TDs in making decisions:

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/team_pokerstars_blogs/barry_greenstein_1/2013/a-call-for-a-committee-133954.html

I definitely think there is some merit to the points that he raises.  In particular, I agree that it is very difficult for TDs to make good decisions if their knowledge of the game as players is limited. I also see the merit of some degree of self-regulation -- if all players would prefer to see a ruling one way despite a rule suggesting a different ruling, why shouldn't the players get what they want?

On the flip side though, I think the idea of player committees would raise new concerns.  First, there is the practical matter of getting everyone together in the middle of a tournament, at the table, and recounting the situation... It is like having 4 umps simultaneously trying to call whether a ball is a strike or not.  And if there is no way to get everyone on the committee together in real-time to discuss the situation, you can run into problems when attempting to recount details accurately.

There is also the issue of conflict of interest - does it really make sense to have players playing in a tournament to make decisions affecting their opponents in the same tournament?  Can we trust that players will be truly objective?  Barry raises the Koroknai/Baumann issue and suggests that many players thought that Koroknai should lose all his chips after mucking when all-in -- but I personally think that if the roles were reversed - if it was Baumann who had mucked when all-in and let's say the TD ruled that she was eliminated, I would bet that the players would have been just as critical.

As another example, I recall some earlier discussions amongst players regarding the non-disclosure rule.. A few years ago, Daniel Negreanu complained that what he called the "no talking" rule was too strict, and when Matt tried to point out that the rule was not so broad as to prohibit "talking" of all forms, players complained that the root of the problem was that TDs could not apply the rule in a consistent way.  The interesting thing was that not all players were taking Daniel's side.  One pro (a WSOP player of the year) was defending the rule, saying that relaxing the rule would make it easier for pros to collude against amateur players.  I won't get into the details here but suffice it to say, I thought he had a really good point.  So if a players' committee is struck, do you think that players on the whole would be more likely to respect its decisions?  I'm not so sure. Is there a chance that such a committee could still be seen as biased?  Perhaps.

If anything, perhaps there should be a Player's Committee... But maybe one that should be more involved in the rule-making process (like attending the TDA summit), or efforts to educate TDs in a positive pro-active way.  But having a committee to 'assist' with decisions in real-time?  I'm not so sure that is the solution.  I, for one, would first need to be convinced that the players understand the need to protect everyone in the tournament, and not just the player who has been 'wronged' by a ruling.  The players also need to understand why certain rules exist. Yes, having TDs that can think like experienced players is certainly helpful, but so are players that can think like experienced TDs.  Second, if players want consistency, then change has to happen at the rule-making level... Having different players committees involved in decisions in different tournaments seems to simply be inviting inconsistency in decisions - this helps no one.

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 on: May 22, 2013, 08:43:48 AM 
Started by MikeB - Last post by MikeB
G: Answers in red:

1) How many managers do you expect to participate to this event? A likely range of total attendees is 140 to 200. The 2011 Summit was around 160.

2) To be only member of the TDA forum without being “certified” is enough to participate? Certification is not required to attend the Summit. Good question, because the TDA Exam platform will close for updating shortly after Summit VI. It will remain closed until Q&A's have been written on the new 2013 Rules. Historically Version 2.0 has not been finalized until at least late August, then figure a few weeks after that at least for the Q&A's... so realistically the exam platform could be closed from early July through mid September. Thus, anyone wanting to obtain TDA Certification should either do so now (it will be good for 2 years), or wait until the exam platform re-opens later in the year.

3) In addition to the voting, shall we have the opportunity to (briefly) speak during the meeting? Any member may speak from the floor on the topic being discussed. Discussion is to be focused on rules issues: the current rules, proposals for new rules, etc.

 6 
 on: May 22, 2013, 08:24:04 AM 
Started by MikeB - Last post by Guillaume Gleize
Hello,

Hope you will excuse my questions but I'm calculating the implied odds of a flight from Europe (lol):

1) How many managers do you expect to participate to this event?

2) To be only member of the TDA forum without being “certified” is enough to participate?

3) In addition to the voting, shall we have the opportunity to (briefly) speak during the meeting?

Thank You, GG

 7 
 on: May 22, 2013, 08:04:52 AM 
Started by MikeB - Last post by Guillaume Gleize
LOL Like you I'm even tempted to CREATE in live those situations to prove the utility of a change of the rule (joke)!

GG

 8 
 on: May 19, 2013, 11:12:19 AM 
Started by Nick C - Last post by Nick C
NO-LIMIT & POT LIMIT

 Any Player that has checked on his turn to act, is allowed to raise if a subsequent player makes a legal bet. A legal bet must fulfill the minimum requirement, which is at least the size of the big blind.

 9 
 on: May 19, 2013, 08:44:46 AM 
Started by Nick C - Last post by Tristan
How about something like:

In a singular betting round of no-limit & pot limit, a player that is not acting for the first time will NOT have the option to raise unless they are faced with a bet/raise that is greater than or equal to what was a minimum bet/raise from their previous action in that round.

 10 
 on: May 18, 2013, 06:25:40 AM 
Started by Nick C - Last post by Nick C
Thanks, Mike. Illustrations might be the answer.

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