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Official Poker TDA Tournament Rules, Latest Version / Re: Clarify Rule 11 please
« Last post by Nick C on December 10, 2017, 08:17:18 AM »
I guess it makes sense for hold-em...but 9 handed stud??? :-\
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Official Poker TDA Tournament Rules, Latest Version / Re: Clarify Rule 11 please
« Last post by DutchTD076 on December 10, 2017, 07:35:25 AM »
Ok guys, makes sense. Thnx for the answers.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by Uniden32 on December 07, 2017, 11:45:51 AM »
In all of our "Single Ante" tournaments, we have the Big Blind post the Ante, and we use the following verbiage:

Ante is to be posted by the Big Blind, is a single Ante, and in an all-in situation,
the Big Blind is to be considered as having been posted first


If anyone is interested in our structure or flyers, just email me and I'll send one over.

Ralph.Brandt@islecorp.com
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by MikeB on December 07, 2017, 10:34:04 AM »
Just to clarify: in events where one player pays all antes, far more often than not you're going to see the BB putting out the entire table ante, not the button. Button ante has problems such as dead button, etc. The BB is the only "must play" seat, and does not have the BB twice. ARIA using it fairly extensively, definitely a coming trend.

By the 2019 TDA Summit there will be alot more global experience with it and will likely be subject of discussion, possibly for a TDA Recommended Procedure for houses that choose to use it.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by Max D on December 05, 2017, 02:33:50 PM »
Started seeing it on the new poker after dark, and hear it was starting to be used in Asia and some casino in the US as well.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by GreggPath on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM »
I knew I'd get your attention. ;D So...what's your take?

I have to agree with you and Dave. I have never heard of button antes until this thread, but I don't like the idea in general. It's solving a problem that doesn't exist and just creates too many questions, such as those posed in this thread. You are already forcing bets on two players (SB and BB). Now the button has a good amount of chips in the pot pre-deal AND has to call the BB (or raised BB) just to stay in. Changes the essence of hold 'em.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by Max D on December 05, 2017, 09:36:50 AM »
Great thread, I have been hearing more about the button ante and was a little confused about it, definitely a topic that is bringing a lot of questions...  and probably a topic that will bring new recommendations in the next TDA update.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by Nick C on December 01, 2017, 02:45:39 PM »
Excellent, Dave...I agree and will rest my case! ;)
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Tatsumune:
Many thanks for an awesome job!
We will also include this version in the TDA translation dropbox.
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Poker TDA Rules & Procedures Questions, General / Re: Button ante Tournament
« Last post by Dave Miller on December 01, 2017, 12:56:34 PM »
The more I think about this issue, the more I think the entire button ante concept is screwed up.

What is the purpose? Is it to speed up the game? I suppose it DOES speed up the game, slightly, but who is urging this change to speed up the game?

If it's the casino's effort to speed up the game, then they have to rethink their blind structure and eliminate antes.

Is it for the players that want a faster game? If so, maybe they shouldn't tank or Hollywood so much.

Is it to simplify things for the dealer? I don't see how getting one big ante from one player is any easier than a small ante from every player.

Is it to avoid the issue of trying to figure out who didn't pay, when the dealer adds up all the antes, and he's come up short? Do I really have to state the obvious fix for that one?

Lastly, it subtly changes the game giving the button an emotional attachment to the entire ante, making him more likely to want to protect, and win back, 'his' dead money.
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